Wednesday, February 11, 2009

Allow Me to Retort...


To all my "loyal readers" who have become so utterly disgusted that they are now revoking their subscriptions:

Where were you when times were "good"?

Why does it take a Photoshopped photo of what Rihanna probably looks like right now to get you all riled up about my blog?

As far as guys go, I'm as much of a feminist as it gets. But I also have a dark and crude sense of humor (which I rarely share with my readers). If only you got too know me a bit better... But how illogical is it to assume that since I posted this picture, I must be an advocate for male dominance and/or domestic violence? If you were reading my Twitter updates all day, you'd know otherwise. If you're so sensitive to the extent at which you'd stop visiting my site because of this photo, I've got two things to say to you:

#1) Thank you for sticking around for as long as you did. The content on the blog will, for the most part, revolve around the same issues and niches I've always covered. It's a shame you'll be missing out. C'est la vie.

#2) I always assume that Hip Hop Is Readers and I are like-minded in more ways than one. I always assume that we can take the same kind of jokes. I assume that the readers are similar to my friends. And FYI, my close friends' worst possible reactions to this photo would be something on the lines of "oh, c'mon Ivan".... And then they'd just keep it moving.

And that's exactly what I'll be doing...

44 comments:

  1. I saw the post and KNEW it was gonna set of some alarms.
    I for one am glad to stick it out with you.. that picture was ALL TYPES of wrong!! BTW.. but I am secure in my own self to know that regardless of it being a joke or part of your ideology -- it ain't mine.

    Looks over tot he right and sees all the causes that you almost NEVER see on other blogs and realizes that Ivan just couldn't be what that picture made him seem to be to some.

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  2. it's just a maturity thing. eventually you'll understand why it's not funny. guy/girl/black/white doesn't matter... making fun of someone who was horribly victimized isn't funny at all. and you've done yourself another disservice by acting cavalier in this follow up post. i'll continue to read the blog, cause it's good, but behind this brand is the Ivan brand... and that brand ain't goin anywhere until you mature a little. what's funny in your private life isn't meant for a business you're attempting to monetize. grow up, kid. just cause you graduated, doesn't mean your head's on right. keep it moving...

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  3. Thank you Belvedere.

    I accept the criticism, 'cause it's valid.

    But I want people to understand the line between satire and reality. I think you got it. :D

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  4. anon: What business? This is my personal blog. Nothing more.

    If I was trying to run a business, I would have secured hiphopisread.net/.com/.org a long time ago.

    And I wasn't making fun of Rihanna at all. I've been a fan since "Pon De Replay", back when I was telling folks that she shoulda been named the "Princess of the Roc" and not Teairra Marí. In all honesty, browsing through this digital artwork inspired the Rihanna photo-manip:

    http://browse.deviantart.com/digitalart/photomanip/macabre/#order=15

    You wanna call it immature? I'll grant you that. I'm sure if you had a face-to-face conversation with me OR if you knew me personally, you'd think otherwise. But oh well.

    I'm not here to be shock-jock. So you probably won't see a post like this from me ever again. If I start slippin', I expect you guys to come back and tell it like it is.

    I'm not mad at you for the criticism.

    But the insults are unnecessary...

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  5. Freedom of speech. Whether you like it or not, people can say what they want. If you don't like it, don't listen. Close the browser, change the channel, whatever. Simple.

    I personally wouldn't do what Ivan did, but I don't hate him for it. I will continue to follow him and talk to him because I think he is a cool guy. How many of you have said some fucked up shit or have done stuff that other people got offended over?

    Pot, meet Kettle...

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  6. keep up the good work ivan, your site is fire regardless. People need to relax.




    Tooba

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  7. tooba, you are a racist idiot. get a new name

    -Trumpette

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  8. Ivan

    Not securing the org/net/com just makes you a broke moron, not a self righteous dude. Never forego an opportunity, youngin'. Word is bond!

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  9. Crow: Slander is not tolerated. I do not make fun of black people, as you assert.

    I would advise that you not make such a comment ever again. Capice?

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  10. anon: Funny.

    You know they're only a few bucks per year, right? I'm quite satisfied with Blogspot, so there's no need for any of that.

    This is my blog. No more, no less.

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  12. i think rhianna had it comin! go ivan! i agree wit u dat rihanna shood get a punish! you tell that bitch to sit down and take it! i hate when women speak up and i hurd she giv him the herp! she disserv a good slap around the block, ya herd?! slerp slerp, rid udda herp!

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  13. Not cool reg, not cool....

    He hit her with closed fists. Absolutely despicable/uncalled for.

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  14. cool reg, cool. ladies love cool reg! cuz if they doesn't, they gets a slap and 1/2. lmao! furreal, i respek u for postin dat pic of rhianna wit the doublemint guy put her in da place where da wooman shood be. kitchen styleee! lol! luv u ivan!

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  16. i'm a racist now??? jeez...

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  17. people just really feeling this chick and if this was a no name artist that chris brown "allegedly" attacked it would not even be such a public uproar about the situation. People still do not know the full details.

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  18. Ivan Tha Terrible.

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  19. Ivan <========3 !!!

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  20. I agree with the post above about requiring maturity before understanding why this is simply something you do not ever do. Here's an example where I will use myself:

    In 1998, I spent the summer in Chicago and happened upon a situation where a woman and perceived crackhead got slapped so hard her head spun around. The man who slapped her was perceived to be in the right because she was nagging him. A crowd had formed and I laughed along with them. Crackheads are annoying, right? She was a basehead...right? She deserved it...right?

    I too have a very sick, twisted sense of humor. But until domestoc violence happened to me in LA County (so I intimately know what Rihanna is going through), I imagined that there were instances where it was wrong but somehow justified. I hope you have never had to witness DV in your home. I believe that if you had, somehow this wouldn't be worthy of satire. That joke is something you keep amongst friends who know you. It's still wrong but at least you've only made an ass of yourself to a smaller public.

    And to be clear: I rode with you. Hard. I linked your site on several occasions. But I can't do that anymore. It is simply a matter of choice. Just like the one you made to see that Photoshopped photo as satire.

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  21. I've been a victim of domestic violence, I still thought it was funny...I realize how some people could take this too seriously, but being a reader of HHIR I kno Ivan wasn't trying to offend anyone, and he apologized. As far as fucked up shit I've seen on the internets...this doesn't make the list. Everyone got their own opinions though...

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  22. Some people are waaaayyyy too sensitive.

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  23. ill Mami: I don't think there's much of a difference, nor should there be, between jokes with my friends and jokes with my blog's readers. I'm trying to be myself here; I'm not putting up a facade. What you see is what you get. I understand your perspective on DV very well, as a matter of fact, but I still stand by the post.

    I'll still stay RSS'd to SoulBounce regardless.

    Humor vs. reality

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  24. Thanks dizastix. People really shouldn't have taken this too seriously...

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  25. damn Ivan they coming at you hard on this shit. It'll pass. Readers come and go. Keep up the good work. Had lil kim ass got beat nobody would be saying shit.

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  26. stop assuming, stop pandering, and please stop giving fillers. stop with the mixtapes that are posted 100's of places around the web. start using your soap box to cover worth whiles issues, news, events.... etc... you have something here.. and it's become if not almost always was about cliche, undeveloped opinions, ideas and watered down/beat to death topics..... take all you have and refine it and throw a lot away.... make THIS place a mecca and not a mirror of hip hop.

    give some ORIGINAL topics, some shit worth click . some not beat to death sample set... that' cool but it's OLD... not even interesting anymore..

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  27. Ivan,

    I'll keep reading. Your blog is dope. And one joke in poor taste does not define you as a human in my eyes. Further, I think that walking away from you, particularly when you see yourself as an ally, is counter productive.

    The flip side is that the picture you posted was incredible fucked up. It was insensitive and disrespectful. And your defense was even worse. It reminds of when i catch white people telling racist jokes: Often the first thing they do is to be dismissive. "You're being to sensitive" - how about you aren't being sensitive enough? You have no idea who your readers are, and you therefore have no idea how many of them have been victims of domestic violence. That shit leaves physical, emotional and psychological scars that last for a life time.

    Like or not, you cant assume that everyone here thinks like you or knows you - especially after that post you made about you being #23 on Wikio's top music Blog. People read this blog and pay attention to you Ivan - people outside of your circle of friends.

    If you are the feminist you claim, show and prove brother. Take a page from Obama's book and admit you fucked up and offer a separate entry of apology.

    And for all you fools who are insulting Ivan step the fuck off - ALL of us have made mistakes. Keep the community in tact and share some insight, not stupidity. For those of you who are leaving because you angry or hurt, it wont solve the problem. Sharing your thoughts, however, will help Ivan and the rest of us gain a better understanding of your reactions.

    Peace to all.

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  28. where is this infamous pic??? i dont see the photoshopped one your talking about?

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  29. Yeah I'd like to see what all the fuss is about.

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  30. I've drafted the post. It's not deleted. But it can't be seen by readers.

    If you must see the pic, here's a link:

    http://tinyurl.com/b4njfc

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  31. What did you write below the pic? That makes all the difference. Context is important. On its own that pic isnt funny but with a clever line it can be taken as a joke.

    BTW I hope Chris Brown cops major flack for this. I hope his female fans dont defend him out of misguided loyalty. No matter what Rihanna may have done, Chris made a bitch move. Multiple bitch moves by the sound of things. Bite marks? Jeez...

    Get well soon RiRi. Im not even a big fan of hers. This mess will be swept under the carpet by both parties, which is a shame because Chris Brown deserves some jail time for this.

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  32. Ivan is going to get jailtime for this. guaranteed. you don't make racist/sexist comments and get away with it in this town!

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  33. FD: The exact text below the pic was as follows...

    "Just sharing....

    This is not meant to offend. I really hope Rih-Rih gets well soon..."

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  34. Ivan's going to jail? Give Chris a beatdown while you're in there!

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  35. Naw, it's cool. I'll get Bubba to do it for me.

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  36. thanks for showing me the pic.... damn, people are too sensitive. SMH

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  37. Its a good thing the picture was taken down because now. HIV has ended, Women all over the world are not abused anymore. Crack Addiction has ended. Everyone stopped listening to the radio and only bumped progressive conscious HipHop, the economy is back on track. I check this site daily because of its content. Im going to spread the word eveyday about this site, for the haters outing themselves.

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  38. ITS THE INTERNET STUPID!

    I love this Site!

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  39. People "Leaving" this site are like mke Phelps sponsors. He dont put out fires, or teach children, nor arrest drug dealers.

    He is A swimmer.

    Not a role model. It woulda been better if he got a DUI?

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  40. :P on another note, im glad your a 2pac-(Junkie)
    like myself, now i can look forward to you posting all of the unreleased songs, that i missed even though i get them at the same time, by the way... im the anon. that asked to see the pic.


    my name is Ace

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  41. but anyways, Chris Brown should be the one getting all of the criticism (like he already is getting), not the bloggers..... he is the one that made the bad ethical decision

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